Monday, November 3, 2008

DO INTERCASTE MARRIAGE YOUR SELF OR YOUR CHILDREN TO BE A MEMBER OF THAT CASTE!!!!!

C. L. Chumber

Reverse caste bias alleged in Canada


The same day I received a book titled “How to win any argument --Do not raise your voice, lose your cool or come to blows "written by Mr. Robert Mayer as a gift on renewing the subscription of renowned magazine the Reader’s Digest. We will also argue to discuss this incident. First of all, we have sympathy for both gentlemen. But they are wrong that they belong to higher Jatt caste .In Varna / caste system, no one is higher than Brahmin. The Hindu Bhagwan Krishna said in his Gita that women, vaish and shudra varnas are impure .This means Brahmins born to women are automatically impure and equivalent to other castes / varnas. That is why Adi-Mahagurus Ravidass and Kabir challenged Brahmin’s supermacy. Adi-Mahaguru Ravidass said there is no difference between God and livings. There is only difference like gold and ornaments made out of it, water and its currents. Adi-Mahaguru Kabir dared to challenge the Brahmin priest class that all are born equals. If the Brahmin is superior to others then he must be born another way. Adi-Mahaguru Kabir was so deadly against the Brahmins that he not only denounced the Hinduism but also warned their followers to beware of the Hindu Gods. He said in his couplet that Ram is my father-in-law and I am his son-in-law, Ram is my brother-in -law (sala) and I am his Jija. Again Adi-Mahaguru Kabir warned that the person who worships Ram s/o Dashrath is a worst than dog and will go to hell! Adi-Mahaguru Namdev founder of the Bhakti movement said that the Hindu is a blind and Turak (Muslim) is blemished. In the same way Guru Nanak preached his first sermon at Sultanpur Lodhi that there was neither Hindu nor Musalman. All are equals.

Let us search our hearts. Are we equals despite our gurus preaching? Are we equals despite our Indian constitution recognizes us equals? Are we equals in our foreign country when our respective country’s constitution recognizes us equals. The Jatts and other backward classes treated us untouchables. Why? Brahmins, Kshattriyas and Vaishes treated us untouchables. Then what is the difference between the castiest Brahmins and Jatts. The ' Karhah parshad “of untouchables was not accepted even in the Golden Temple, Amritsar upto 12 th October, 1920. The Khalsa community ( untouchables ) arranged a rally on 11 and 12 Oct.1920 in the Jallianwala Bagh , Amritsar against the untouchability in the Sikh Gurudwaras especially in the Golden Temple .Prof. Teja Singh in his autobiography named " Aarsi" recorded this historical incident .This book is published by the Punjabi University, Patiala . Mr. Ruchi Ram Sahni also wrote a book in English on the Gurdwaras reform movement which was published by the S.G.P.C. Amritsar . The S.G.P.C., Amritsar also published a book in Punjabi named “Shiromani Gurdwara Prabandhak Committee Da Itihaas “in which the un-touchability in the Golden Temple is recorded. S. Daljit Singh M.P. wrote biography of Prof. Ditt Ram Gyani @ Prof. Ditt Singh Gyani in which he recorded the un-touchability in the Golden Temple. He wrote that the untouchables were allowed in the Golden Temple between 11.00 A.M. to!.00 P.M. when theirs shadows fell below theirs own feet and did not fell on touchable! I am proud of my forefathers who participated in the movement against untouchability in the Golden Temple and two our forefathers Bhai Gulab Singh and Bhai Gurbakhsh Singh sacrificed theirs lives in the Nankana Sahib Gurdwara tragedy .The Punjabi book of S.G.P.C. and the' Sikh Leadership ' of G.N.D. University, Amritsar published theirs profiles with photographs . The S.G.P.C. appointed our uncle S. Balwant Singh who retired as officer. Advocate S. Narinder Singh two times president of the Distt. Bar Association is his daughter’s son. The residents of our ancestral village Hussain Abad (Saina bad) P.O. Sarih Tehsil Nakodar District Jalandhar (on Nakodar-Phagwara road and on Jalandhar -Ferozepur via Nakodar railway line) erected a building in memory of martyrs Bhai Gulab Singh Chumber and Bhai Gurbakhsh Singh Chumber .We are proud of our forefathers who laid down their lives by burning alive to stop the un-touchability practice. The S.G.P.C. and all Akali Dals dominated by Jatts do not highlight this movement which is just like Dr. Ambawdekar`s movements of Kala Ram temple entry and Mahad Tank!

But the manuwadis again posesed the Gurdwaras and changed the committee under S. Sunder Singh Ramgarhia .The movement against untouchability was initiated under Bhai Mehtab Singh, the backward class Arain Muslim turned Sikh of village Baka Pur a village situated on G. T. Road NH-1 in between Ludhiana and Jalandhar nearest to Phillaur a Tehsil H .Q. and Bhai Bajaj (Ravidassia caste) of village Jandu Singha on Jalandhar-Hoshiarpur road. My grandfather S. Dhanna Singh Chumber @ Bapu Dhanna Ram Chumber’s in-laws was in village Jandu Singha. The Bhapas and now Jatts dominated S. G. P. C. and Akali Dals finished Bhai Bir and Bhai Bajaj from history. On 12th Oct. 2000, I celebrated the Rights Day (Adhikar Divas) in the Desh Bhagat Yaadgar Hall, Jalandhar City to commemorate the end of untouchability in the Golden Temple on 12th Oct.1920, the sanction of some rights to the untouchables by the Governor of Punjab due to the struggle of gadhrite Baba Babu Mangu Ram Muggowalia’s Adi-Dharam Mandal, Baba Banda Bahadur`s Victory on a town which falls on 12th Oct., Dr. Ambawdekar`s a victory against untouchability fell on 12th Oct. The Badal Govt. some B.S.P. leaders of Jalandhar to torpedo the programme so that the people of all walks may not join under the leadership of Shahid-e-azam Sahib Kanshi Ram Ji. He was our chief guest. Those B.S.P .leaders are now SAD (BADAL) `s workers!


The Adi-Mahaguru Ravidass adi-dwara committee’s decision is right because the Jatts hates scheduled castes .That is why the Adi-Dharmis built theirs separate Adi-Dwaras . The Adi-Dharam is a separate religion and have no connection with any another religion .Mahatma Sant Singh Azad @ Sant Ram Azad of village Nangal Shahidan ( on Hoshiarpur-Mahilpur road) also participated in the Nankana Sahib Gurdwara reform movement. A Jatt of his village said," Aa bai Santia .Tun bi aa gian (Come in Santia. Have you also come?" Mahatma Sant Ram Azad did not reply and left the place. After some time, Azad Ji came back." what is your appearance?’ The same Jatt asked. “You did not treat me as S. Sant Singh Azad .Therefore I am now clean shaven and Mahatma Sant Ram Azad!” Azad Ji said.

Ghadri Baba Babu Ram Muggowalia founded the Adi-Dharam Mandal branch at Raikot town in Ludhiana Distt. The untouchables of a nearby village Sehjarha on Raikot-Barnala road built a Adi-Mahaguru Ravidass’s Adi-Dwara .The Jatts of the village and surrounding area reported the Police. The village was under the jurisdiction of the Patiala Princely state and the Maharaja ordered to put the responsible untouchables behind the bars! S. Gurbakhsh Singh Rahi (of Barnala) an SGPC missionary recorded this tragedy in his auto-biography in Punjabi because Sehjarha is his ancestral village! Sant Jaswant Singh Ghawadhi @ Sant Jamuna Das Ghawaddi was a staunch follower of Adi-Dharam and he wrote half dozen books on Adi-Mahaguru Ravidass Ji in Punjabi and Hindi languages. Baba Muggowalia mentioned his name in his auto-biographical essay. I visited this village first of all with Mr. Sutey Parkash Ahir Canada`s elder brother in 1980 AD. In Ghawadhi village situated on Ludhiana-Malerkotla road near village Sarinh .Some Sikhs ordered untouchables to close down all the Gurdwaras except Jatt-Gurdwara. An untouchable Sikh retired teacher argued that there are Gurdwaras of Ravidasias, Mazabhis, Kumihars and Jatts in our village. Let us draw a lottery of all Gurdwaras. We will open the Gurdwara of which name will be in draw. The Jatts dropped the idea!

There was a seminar on Adi-Mahaguru Ravidass in Feb.2008 arranged by DAV College, Dasuya (Hoshiarpur). I also participated. A Sikh Professor of Guru Gobind Singh College, Garhdiwala (Hoshiarpur) objected that Guru Ravidass is Bhagat not Guru .I asked that you are not great than Guru Gobind Singh .Guru Ji said that there will be no Guru after him. Adi-Granth will be Guru Granth sahib. I argued that if Vani / Bani is Guru then the writers of these Bani are Mahaguru! Mr. Manohar Lal Mahey of Vigilant Brotherhood, Jalandhar was so happy on this development that he at once cried with over joy," Chumber sahib! Now there will be a compromise on Guru! “I said," I will not do Puna Pact. We are separate identity!" I wrote Adi-Mahagurus from that day." The Sikh Gurus praised/followed our Adi-Mahagurus! But their Sikhs hate us without any reason. I wrote in their side and got registered a case against me under TADA 3/4 and IPC 153-A .They neither protected me nor appreciated. A Sikh intellectual S. Ajmer Singh pursuing me to hand over him a copy of the special issue on Punjab Problem of the “Kaumi Udarian” so that he may write about me but I refused to hand over it because his a close friend and Sikh News paper group had a clear hand in my road accident at Phagwara on 7th Feb.1997 in which I lost my two brothers (from community) for ever. An aimless person quarrels with each others. The persons having aim, dedication and concentration co-operate, co-ordinate with each others.


The Jatt Sikhs never started a social reform movement. They ask the govt. to give them the Australian rate of wheat but they will never agree for Australian rate for labour. Mr. Sahota and Mr. Shergill boasted that Jatts are high caste. Dr. Jagjit Singh in his book 'Sikh Revolution" wrote that in Mughal period a Jatt had to appear in the court with a dog due to his lower caste. The Jatt is not a caste. The Punjab Language Department., Patiala published a book “Punjab Castes" .There is a table in which the number person of each caste is written who converted to Jatts. This is the census 1881 AD. I had also seen the same type table in census 1931 AD.

Today I had seen the prospectus of the Layalpur Khalsa College, Jalandhar City full of Jatts Management committee. The same position of Sikh colleges at Nakodar, Phagwara, Sangh Dhesian, Banga, Garh Shankar, Mahilpur, Garhdiwala etc. The Jatts (majority) have surrendered to Hinduism through S. Parkash Singh Badal. He is the Chief Minister of Punjab. His only son is the president of the ruling party. His brother`s son is the Khaa-jana minister. His daughter`s husband is also cabinet minister. His daughter-in-law`s brother is also cabinet minister. Another relative S. Janmeja Singh is also a cabinet minister. Another relative is also an M.L.A. from Jalandhar Cantt. The poor Jatts are committing suicides and S. Badal`s kitchen cabinet is enjoying. This may be recorded in the Guinness and Limca record books!


We appreciate the NRI Adi-Dharamis for building Adi-Dwaras. Now they must open at least one college in a Tehsil so that the education mission may be completed as early as possible. I have produced my three children as managers in MNCs. I had pledged my sweet home with a nationalized bank for my children’s higher study. Now they are repaying the loan. Please hate our socio-economic status. This will be improved by higher professional study only. DO OR DIE FOR COMING GENERATION. DON`T BLAME OTHERS. BE UNITED & FIGHT FOR OUR HUMAN RIGHTS.THANKS.

BABA RAM CHAND KHERHA,
EDITOR, ADI-DANKA

(FIRST EVER PUNJABI & URDU DALIT WEEKLIES!)

-AN INTERVIEW BY: C.L. CHUMBER
CL_CHUMBER@YAHOOMAIL.COM

We first of all published Baba Ram Chand Kherha’s interview (Baba Muggowalia’s son late Mr. Chatar Sain Muggowalia P.C.S. was accompanied by me) in our Punjabi monthly magazine “Kaumi Udarian”‘s Baba Mangu Ram Muggowalia’s special birth centenary issue, January, 1986. When I as resident editor of Sahib Kanshi Ram’s Punjabi weekly “Bahujan Samaj Bulletin” decided to publish special issue on Baba Muggowalia of its 12th January 1997 issue, one of my advisers suggested interviewing Baba Kherha Ji. Sahib Kanshi Ram in his speeches felt proud of declaring the Bahujan Samaj Bulletin his Adi-Danka.

We immediately rushed to Baba Kherha Ji’s house, 50 kms away on 11 th January 1997 at 9:00p.m. I was accompanied by M/S Chaman Lal Sahni “Kherha”, Gurmit Chand Sampla “Sofi Pind,” Kishan Lal Ahir “Kukkar Pind,” Joginder Paul Johari “Pharwala,” Vijay Kumar Lallian, Ashok Kumar “Ibrahim Basti” Nawan Shahar, Prem Kumar Chumber and Kumarjiv Chumber (my younger brother and my elder son) and driver late Shahid Mr. Sushil Kumar Verma (R/O village Bohan Tehsil and District Hoshiarpur). I presented a copy of Dr. Mark Juergensmeyer’s book “Religious Rebels in Punjab” to Baba Kherha Ji. We enjoyed Baba Kherha Ji’s company. We were sad on his weeping remembering district Ferozepur`s Baba Jhagarhu Ram and Baba Bararhu Ram two Adi-Dharami martyrs of Census 1931 AD. Sometimes it also saddens me to think of my two friends Sushil Kumar Verma and Ashwani Kumar “Shammi” Valmikan of Ali Mohalla, JalandharCity who lost their lives on 7 th February, 1997 at Phagwara by a plotted road accident. I dedicate this English version to both martyrs!!

Baba Muggowalia Ji, Baba Kherha Ji and their missionary friend Baba Telu Ram “Khawaspuri”‘S Grand Son Sahib Kanshi Ram are no more but they are now the shinning stars of the biggest ever war fought in the world against the Indo-Aryans. The untouchables are now struggling hard to rule the biggest ever democrate country to establish the Be-gam Pura an ideal state concept! We are proud of them and their honest and dedicated Lieutenants!!! - C.L. Chumber.

(1) First photo Baba Ram Chand Kherha ji at the fag end of his life on 11th January,1996 mid-night.(2) 2nd Photo - Shahid-e-azam Sahib Kanshi Ram visited Mr. C. L. Chumber’s home on 27th December,1996 . Chumber brothers and Jan Sangram Chumber s/o C.L. Chumber with others are seen in picture with him. Mr. Sangram ( 12 yrs old)was also severely injured in plotted accident with his parents and 6 others.( 3 ) Shahid-e-azam Sahib Kanshi Ram signing the authority letter for compensation court case of Shahid Shusil Kumar Verma driver of the Bahujan Samaj Bulletin who lost his life in a plotted road accident on 7th Feb. , 1997 at Phagwara (Punjab). Mr. C. L. Chumber sat with him.( 4 ) Mr. C. L. Chumber honoured for first ever Baba Muggowalia Souvenir 1985 AD in Baba Muggowalia birth centenary function at Garhshankar ( Hoshiarpur )January 1986 by Late Babu Chatar Sain P.C.S. ( son of Baba Muggowalia, Mr. Harbans Singh Hira, president, Adi-Dharam Brotherhood(U.K.),Chaudhary Nigahiya Ram "Barhpagga", S. Pakhar Singh Nimana ,missionary poet Late Chanan Lal Manak , Yodha Mall Muggowalia(Canada),Late Capt. Bhagu Ram "Heon", Manjit Muggowalia and others.
(1) First photo Baba Ram Chand Kherha ji at the fag end of his life on 11th January,1996 mid-night.(2) 2nd Photo - Shahid-e-azam Sahib Kanshi Ram visited Mr. C. L. Chumber’s home on 27th December,1996 . Chumber brothers and Jan Sangram Chumber s/o C.L. Chumber with others are seen in picture with him. Mr. Sangram ( 12 yrs old)was also severely injured in plotted accident with his parents and 6 others.( 3 ) Shahid-e-azam Sahib Kanshi Ram signing the authority letter for compensation court case of Shahid Shusil Kumar Verma driver of the Bahujan Samaj Bulletin who lost his life in a plotted road accident on 7th Feb. , 1997 at Phagwara (Punjab). Mr. C. L. Chumber sat with him.( 4 ) Mr. C. L. Chumber honoured for first ever Baba Muggowalia Souvenir 1985 AD in Baba Muggowalia birth centenary function at Garhshankar ( Hoshiarpur )January 1986 by Late Babu Chatar Sain P.C.S. ( son of Baba Muggowalia, Mr. Harbans Singh Hira, president, Adi-Dharam Brotherhood(U.K.),Chaudhary Nigahiya Ram "Barhpagga", S. Pakhar Singh Nimana ,missionary poet Late Chanan Lal Manak , Yodha Mall Muggowalia(Canada),Late Capt. Bhagu Ram "Heon", Manjit Muggowalia and others.

C.L CHUMBER: Baba Ram Chand Kherha Ji! Where and when was your good self born?

BABA RAM CHAND KHERHA JI: I was born on 15th Oct., 1902 at my mother’s parental village BINJO Tehsil Garhshankar Distt. Hoshiarpur, Punjab. My father’s name was Thekedar Inder Ram and my mother’s name was Mrs. Basanti @ Santi. My ancestral village is Kherha near village Paaldi Block Mahilpur, Tehsil Garhshankar District Hoshiarpur (Punjab). My father Thekedar Inder Ram and my uncle Mr. Nikka Ram Kherha migrated to New Zealand for employment in 1914 AD. My father died in 1969 AD.

C.L. CHUMBER: Please tell us about your education?

BABA RAM CHAND KHERHA JI: I was admitted in the private school of Sant Nand Singh of our village .Sant Nand Singh being Jatt caste followed the Sikh philosophy (religion) but he hated me ( being untouchable caste fellow ) even when he teached me a lesson. When ever he distribute KARHAH PARSHAD (consecrate ) in his Dera (Religious Place ), he used to throw away in my hands .When ever a low caste man or woman donated coins , he first of all rubbed with his foot on the soil and then he kept that coins separate from the coins of upper caste persons . I am to say that even the Sikh religious persons hated us extremely!

C .L. CHUMBER: Baba Ram Chand Kherha Ji! Please tell us some incidents of untouchability in your childhood time?

BABA RAM CHAND KHERHA JI: Yes, this is the story that once I went out at the call of the nature and I washed my hands at a farmer `s well. At once Mr. Fumman Singh (farmer) who was a Mahton Sikh by caste, slashed 5-7 times a rope made from straw on my back and abused me. He said that I had polluted his well. Then I was a student of 2nd class, when an examiner Inspector (Babu) came for our examination. He asked to solve a mathematics question that a trader purchased 19 caps at the rate of one and a quarter aana and he handed over Rs. one and half to the shopkeeper. How much money the shopkeeper had to return?

At that time, there were the multiplication tables of half, three fourth, one and a quarter times, one and a half times and two and half times. We in the second class used to solve the questions of gold and silver.

Then there were the slates and wooden tablets not the exercise books. I solved the question and put my slate downward separately. The other students also solved the question and put the slates under one another in a heap. The inspector babu asked whose slate is this. I stood up and said that this is mine. He called me nearby himself. At that time, there was Mr. Fumman Singh who beaten me by ropes made from straw before, he cautioned the Inspector that I was the Chamar caste fellow. Inspector babu said that the heap of slates must be broken by bricks and whom you discard by saying Chamar that Chamar student had flushed out you all the Rajputs. He awarded me with RS. 25/-. My maternal grandfather was also in the school who handed over RS. 25/- also and asked the school staff to distribute the sweets amounting RS 50/- . Then I complained to the inspector babu that these Rajput Sikhs people did not allow us washing our wooden tablets. Then a Musalman Munshi of police station asked me to complain .We handed over the complaint. The police officer came in our village. All villagers gathered, all the Rajput (Mehton) community realized their faults and begged pardon from us in the village gathering!

Then the inspector babu ji ordered that as long as this student would study in this school, he would be monitor of his class! After this no one dared to treat me as an untouchable! Then the Mehton (Rajput) Sikh caste ladies come to my house to urge me that I should guide their children in study. They used to gift me jiggery, sugarcane and many other eatables and urged me to teach their children. I did my primary education at my maternal village Binjo’s school and then I studied up to 9 th class at D.A.V. school, Mahilpur district Hoshiarpur. My father was in New Zealand. My mother Mrs. Basanti @ Santi was in India. She was very much delighted when I compelled the Mehton community to say sorry. She used to say me that I should not bother any body. She used to applaud me.

C. L. CHUMBER: When were you married? How many have you children?

BABA RAM CHAND KHERHA: Long ago, there was a custom to marry the children. I was also married when I was nine years old. My wife was seven years old at that time. My wife’s second ceremonial visit (Muklawa) to our home was when I was 18 years old. We have four sons and two daughters. My wife’s name was Mrs. Ishari and she fully co-operated with me in every field.


C. L. CHUMBER: When did you first ever meet Baba Mangu Ram Muggowalia ji Maharaj?

BABA RAM CHAND KHERHA: I first ever met Baba Mangu Ram Muggowalia in the Adi-Dharam foundation function on 11-12 June, 1926 at his ancestral village Muggowal District Hoshiarpur.

C. L. CHUMBER: First of all, please tell us from where your good self came to know about the Adi-Dharam conference held at village Muggowal?

BABA RAM CHAND KHERHA: At that time, Baba Muggowalia published the posters of the function which we distributed by hand and pasted on the walls in villages and towns.

C .L CHUMBER: What was discussed in this Adi-Dharam function?

BABA RAM CHAND KHERHA:
Baba Mangu Ram Muggowalia told in his speech that the watchman registered us as Hindu in the register of birth and death but the Hindus did not allow us to touch them. He said that we had no right in India .

Again Baba Muggowalia said that the government job was a distance issue. We were not even appointed as the watchman. The Hindus were also looting our right of our Adi-Dharam nation. We were compelled to do the bonded labour of loading. The landlords treated us as slaves. He (Baba Muggowalia) continued to say that we were the Adi-Dharamis and the aboriginals of the India. The Hindus (Brahman, Kshattriya and Vaishya .Sahib Kanshi Ram also followed the Adi-ism – Chumber) were the foreigner Aryans. (Baba Muggowalia in his Adi-Dharam Mandal report 1931 wrote the 20 resolutions passed in the first ever Adi-Dharam Mandal’s Function at village Muggowal. He also wrote the fundamental principles of Adi-Dharam, twelve duties of Adi-Dharami organizations, fifty six duties of the Adi-Dharamis in the report which covers the period of January 1926 to April 1931 – C.L. Chumber)

C. L. CHUMBER: Please enlighten us in details regarding the bounded labour of loading (Boja-Begar)?

BABA RAM CHAND KHERHA: When ever a police constable or any other government officials visited the village, we Chuhra-Chamar people had to carry his bed etc. luggage 10-12 miles away to his destination. When ever the police officer visited the village, we had to reap the grass for his horse. We had to carry the dead body of a person killed in a dispute to the district head quarters. In the Kangra’s (now in Himachal Pradesh state) hilly area, we had to carry on the Palanquin. When the bride went with marriage party, then the large kettle-drum was put on our man’s back and the Hindus beat that large kettle-drum loudly.

C. L. CHUMBER: Please enlight us in details how the Adi-Dharamis were dealt as Sub-human beings?

BABA RAM CHAND KHERHA: The non Adi-Dharamis did not permit a foreign returned Adi-Dharami to build a brick building the in the village Langeri near Mahil Pur town of district Hoshiarpur. When he built the brick building, then the non Adi-Dharamis did not permit him to build the double story. There was a court case and we won. Then the daring Adi-Dharami fellow built the three story’s building.

When we dug the wells, construct the walls with the bricks, construct the circular wooden base on which wall of well is erected, we made a contraption consisting of a large leather bucket but when the well was ready to use, the Sikh Jatts sprinkled the Ganges-water in the well to purify the water of the well which they thought was polluted by our touch. (That is why they are the second class Hindus in the Guise of Sikhs!).

If an untouchable jumped over the rope to draw water from the well, they (Jatt Sikhs) thought that the water of the well was polluted and they sprinkled the ganges-water to purify it. And they did beat the untouchable to make him half-dead.

They (Jatt Sikhs) draw water from the well by a vessel then they pour it into a small size pitcher like vessel. Then they again pour water from the vessel into the small earthen pitcher. Then they pour it through the out let of a cactus plant to reach our double palmful ! In the hotels, there were separate utensils for us; it did not matter whether the dogs and cats licked our utensils. If any untouchable joined a marriage party of touchables as a menial working for sutomaru payment , he had to stay nights at the residence of untouchables of that village for many days (as there was a marriage ceremony for 3-4 days in those days – Chumber). He was not even allowed to sit with the marriage party for dinning. Our lives were worst than a hell ! This is due to the kindness of our Baba Mangu Ram Muggowalia that we have progressed so much.

C.L. CHUMBER: Who was the first editor of the “Adi-Danka” weekly?

BABA RAM CHAND KHERHA: Baba Mangu Ram Muggowalia was the first editor of the Adi-Danka. Then he appointed me as the editor and Baba Sant Ram Azad (of village Nangal Shahidaan near Hoshiarpur on Garhshankar Road. He left Sikhism -Chumber) as sub editor in 1928 AD and the Adi-Danka was closed in 1951 AD

C.L. CHUMBER: In which language the Adi-Danka was published?

BABA RAM CHAND KHERHA: The Adi-Danka was a Punjabi weekly in the beginning. Then the Adi-Danka weekly launched in Urdu language in 1930 AD. The Punjabi and Urdu version of the Adi-Danka weeklies were posted on every Tuesday.

C.L. CHUMBER: will your good self enlight us the names of famous poets of the Adi-Danka?

BABA RAM CHAND KHERHA: Baba Mangu Ram Muggowalia, Sant Ram Azad, Sant Ram Bham, Dhanna Singh Langeri, Sansar Chand "Adi " Muggowalia, Bhagat Ram Diwana Mandhali, Gurdass Ram Alam, Sant Gopal Dass Langeri, Charan Singh Safari, Chanan Lal Manak, Sangu Ram Sund “Rai Pur Dabba,”( New Zealand ), Pandit Bakhshi Ram . We published the poems of the poets in “The Adi-Dukharhe” (sorrows of the aboriginal Indians).

C.L. CHUMBER: Please enlight us a specimen of Baba Muggowalia’s poetry?

BABA RAM CHAND KHERHA: In 1926 AD, the poem in the Adi-Dharam Mandal’s poster was written by Baba Muggowalia. (We republished it in the Baba Mangu Ram Muggowalia 99 th Birth Anniversary Souvenir 1985,again in the Kaumi Udarian ‘s Baba Muggowalia birth centenary special issue January, 1986 both published by myself and in Sahib Kanshi Ram’s Punjabi weekly “Bahujan Samaj Bulletin” ‘s Baba Muggowalia special issue dated 12 th January, 1997. I C.L. Chumber was its resident editor. ).There is a specimen of his poetry which I like to recite: -

“Adi-Dharami people! ”Please listen to me with care, to know why our nation is so much down to earth. We people are wandering like animals, thousands years had passed, we are in trauma. The Hindus are not our protectors, because they saw a blot of poverty on our foreheads. The poverty had broken our neck, by pulling the carcasses, our lower end of back bone red dished. My friends by weeding with numerous agriculturist Jatts, our knees build clumsy by doing weeding in the crops. Our people developed the thought of begging, our hands act niggardly due to our harvesting. I Mangu Ram warn you to be vigilant; otherwise you will be worst to others! "

There was a spasmodic pain and reality in the poetry of Baba Mangu Ram Muggowalia! Especially Baba Muggowalia wrote poetry in others names and he mentioned his name very occasionally There was his another famous poem”Hindu di gau raksha - Hindu’s cow protection ". Which I also want to recite: -

“Dear brothers! Listen the kindness of the Hindus – 2 they say mother-cow when they drink milk, when the same cow dies, they discard her! "

C.L.CHUMBER: Will your good self enlight us on the Simon Commission?

BABA RAM CHAND KHERHA: The Congress Party demanded the Sawraj (Home Rule), the British Government appointed a commission from London under the chairmanship of Sir Johan Simon to know whether the India needed independence or not? In October, 1928, when the Simon Commission visited Lahore, ten thousands Adi-Dharamis bearing red turbans, the red flags in hands and red belts around theirs waists went there. There was inscribed "Adi-Dharam Mandal "on the belts. ( One such belt was bestowed to me by revered Baba Muggowalia on 12th Oct.,1979 , when I left the job as the Tehsil Welfare Officer for the common cause at the age of 21 years ! ) . There was a ban on us wearing the red color. In the Lahore (Greater Punjab’s capital city, now in Pakistan) area, more than ten thousands Adi-Dharami brick-makers came with red turbans, wearing the red belts and red flags with sticks in theirs hands .The brick -makers of Lahore arranged the meals for all!

Baba Mangu Ram Muggowalia said (to the Simon Commission) that we were not Hindus, we were Adi-Dharamis. We must be given rights proportionate to our population. India is not (now) capable for the Independence. If India is declared independent (now), then our share must be given to us. Dr. Ambedkar (Dr. Ambawdekar whose name his Brahman teacher Mr. Ambedkar changed! - C. L. Chumber) was also there with the Simon Commission, Lala Lajpat Rai was a leader of the Congress Party as well as The Arya Samaj. And he tried his best to stop our people forcibly so that our people should not meet the Simon Commission. That is why the police had to lathi charge on them. Lala Lajpat Rai `s stand was that if the untouchables (Adi-Dharamis) were separated from the Hindus, there would be a big loss to the Hindus! After many days, Lala Lajpat Rai died due to cardiac arrest, (I read the same in a paper of Pandit Madan Mohan Malviya preserved in the National Archive, New Delhi. I noted the contents, name and date of the paper in my diary which will be published in due course - C.L. Chumber).

C. L. CHUMBER: Please enlight us about the Lothian Committee (Franchise Committee)?

BABA RAM CHAND KHERHA: The Lothian Committee was also addressed by Baba Mangu Ram Muggowalia .Baba Hazara Ram Pipplanwalia ( Gen. Sec. Adi-Dharam Mandal) wrote in details regarding the Lothian Committee in his article “the Adi-Dharam Mandal and the Lothian Committee." (We published it in the Kaumi Udarian `s Baba Muggowalia special Birth Centenary issue, January,1986 and again in Sahib Kanshi Ram’s The Bahujan Samaj Bulletin weekly dated 22nd December,1996 .The Punjabi readers can visit http://www.ambedkartimes.org . The English version will be available in the first week of October, 2008 on Baba Hazara Ram Piplanwalia`s birth day! - C. L. Chumber).

C.L. CHUMBER: Please enlight us about the census 1931 AD?

BABA RAM CHAND KHERHA: In that year Baba Mangu Ram Muggowalia was 45 years old having marvelous qualities of leadership. He got recognized that the Adi-Dharam in the census of 1931 AD from the British Government!!! (Dr. Ambedkar also appreciated Baba Muggowalia’s efforts to got recognition of the Adi-Dharam. We reproduced his writing from the book “Source Material on Baba Saheb Dr. Ambedkar" published by Maharashtra Govt. in the first ever souvenir on Baba Muggowalia in 1985! PLEASE VISIT http://ambedkartimes.com – C.L. Chumber). And our people also registered themselves as Adi-Dharamis openly with daring spirit! The Hindus and Sikhs jointly created barriers to stop our legitimate movements. They did stop our people to move in the fields for call of the nature and to scrape the earth for grass. In nut shell, they made our lives hell .In Ferozepur District, our two brothers named Baba Jhagarhu Ram and Baba Bararhu Ram were burnt alive for recording themselves as Adi-Dharamis in the Census! (There was a tear burst in abundant in the eyes of Baba Kherha Ji.) .Even the children recited: - “Leave the quarrels, do color the turban as red, be vigorous, do not leave the Adi-Dharam!” (Chad jhagrha , ranga lai lal pagrha, dharam nu nahin chhaddana , ho tagarha ! -in Punjabi )

C.L.CHUMBER: BABA MUGGOWALIA ALSO SAT ON FAST-UNTO-DEATH to counter Mr. Mohan Das Karam Chand Gandhi `s fast-unto-death against untouchables rights in the Communal Award! Please enlight our readers about his fast-unto-death also?

BABA RAM CHAND KHERHA: When Mr. Gandhi Ji came to know that the untouchables were recognized as a separate nation like the Hindus, Sikhs, Muslims and Christians in the Communal Award announced by the British Government head quarters at London on 18th August, 1932, he did slyness. And he (Gandhi Ji) sat on fast-unto-death only against the untouchables rights in the Yervada prison at Poona (now Pune in Maharashtra). Baba Mangu Ram Muggowalia was in Simla at that time.(Simla was in Punjab and was the summer capital of India at that time, now the capital of Himachal Pradesh –C.L. Chumber). He (Baba Muggowalia) warned the British government not to surrender to Mr. Gandhi `s demands. Baba Muggowalia dared to announce his fast--unto-death for theirs legitimate rights. He started his fast-unto-death at JalandharCity (The Adi-Dharam Mandal’s head quarter was at JalandharCity, Punjab). The Hindus threatened Dr. Ambedkar. The society was not so much ready. That is why Dr. Ambedkar was compelled to sign a pact with Mr. Gandhi. Baba Muggowalia telephoned Dr. Ambedkar that you should not surrender to the Hindus. Dr. Ambedkar said that he was compelled to sign the Poona Pact. We lost more than the rights we got in the Poona Pact! ( Later on in 1945 AD , Dr. Ambedkar denounced the Poona Pact in his marvelous book " What Congress and Gandhi had done to the untouchables .He wrote a chapter " Poona Pact-A Mean Deal " which will you watch on http://www.ambedkartimes.com&org on 24th Sept ., 2008 - Poona Pact Day. Sahib Kanshi Ram started his political activities by starting a march from Pune to denounce Poona Pact in a big rally on 24th Sept., 1982 at JalandharCity. He wrote in details in his book " The Chamcha Age-An Era of the Stooges " which will be available on http://www.ambedkartimes.com & org on his 2nd death anniversary 8th October,2008 - Chumber ) .Gandhi’s fast-unto-death was only for four to five days but Baba Muggowalia’s fast-unto-death against Mr. Gandhi continued for three weeks. There were no seats reserved for Punjab untouchables. Baba Muggowalia’s fast-unto-death continued till the Punjabi untouchables got the rights!
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C. L. CHUMBER: Baba Kherha Ji! How is your good self``s health?

BABA RAM CHAND KHERHA: My health is quite well. My age is 95 years now. I still do sit-up exercise 100 times by holding the chair!

C. L. CHUMBER: NOW WITH WHOM YOU’RE GOOD SELF LIVE?

BABA RAM CHAND KHERHA: I live with my younger son Mr. Tej Ram at my ancestral village Kherha. (Mr. Tej Ram Kherha retired as the Block and Panchayat Development Officer! - C. L. Chumber)

C. L. CHUMBER: IS THERE ANY MESSAGE TO THE ADI-DHARAM NATION?

BABA RAM CHAND KHERHA: WE MUST MARCH FROM THE SLAVERY TOWARDS THE COMPLETE INDEPENDENCE! DO PROGRESS IN EVERY FIELD. PLEASE RECEIVE THE HIGHEST STUDY! ( My family fulfilled his wishes by getting our two daughters Miss Ravijot Chumber M.B.A. of Wales University, U.K. and Miss Amandeep Chumber B.Sc. (Hons) in Software Engineering of Westminster University , London ( now doing M.B.A. in India )and elder son Mr. Kumarjiv Chumber who was with me for this interview got 98% marks in a semester, 83% marks overall in four years degree Bachelor in Multimedia ( Electronic media , print media and animation ) by pledging our sweet home for higher study loan .With the kind blessings of Baba Kherha and other revolutionary forefathers from the primitive to modern period , we will also send our two sons for highest study in foreign countries. This is a small tribute to an editor of first ever Punjabi and Urdu dalits weeklies from an editor of first ever souvenir of Baba Muggowalia! I hope and wish that all parents of our nation whether in India or in foreign countries will sacrifice even their lives to get their sweet children highest ever education in the universe!!!!! - Chumber). BEWARE OF THE EVILS AND DO GOOD DEEDS. BEWARE OF BAD SOCIAL CUSTOMS. DO RISE IN THE BUSSINESS. DO PROGRESS IN CAPTURING MAXIMUM POLITICAL FIELD! BEWARE OF THE ENTOXICANTS! OUR SOCIETY MUST PRODUCE MAXIMUM I.A.S./ I.P.S. / P.C.S. / ADVOCATES / DOCTORS / ENGINEERS , AND MANY OTHER HIGHER RANK OFFICERS !!!!! JAI GURDEV!

C.L.CHUMBER: DHAN GURDEV!

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MR. AND MRS. C. L. CHUMBER THE BEST SEWADARS
AWARDEES OF THE ADI DHARAM COMMUNITY!



Mr. Harbans Singh Heera, the president of the Adi Dharam Brotherhood UK and his wife visited Mr. C. L. Chumber’s residence on Adi-Maha Bhagwan Valmiki `s Gurpurb on 14th October, 2008. He appreciated the contributions of Mr. C. L. Chumber for the last 35 years in the development of the Adi Dharam community. He also commended Mrs. Santosh Kumari Chumber’s contribution in education of the Adi Dharam community. Mr. and Mrs. Heera said that Mr. and Mrs. Chumber set an example of educating their own family by pledging their home with the bank and produced one daughter securing MBA of Wales University, (UK) and other daughter securing B.Sc. (Hons) software engineering from the Westminster University, London (UK) and a son securing 4 years bachelor in multimedia (Electronic Media, Print Media and Animation) with 83% marks over all and 98% marks in 8th semester. They are now managers in MNCS.


Mr. and Mrs. Harbans Singh Heera awarded Mr. C.L. Chumber and Mrs. S. K. Chumber as “the best Sewadar of the Adi Dharam community “with memento and photograph of Adi Mahaguru Ravidass Ji. Mrs. and Mr. C. L. Chumber also applauded the contribution of Mrs. and Mr. Harbans Singh Heera and the Adi Dharam Brotherhood UK. Mr. Heera and his Adi Dharam Brotherhood UK invited Baba Mangu Ram Muggowalia to U.K. in 1976 AD to celebrate the golden jubilee of the Adi Dharam Mandal. Mrs. and Mr. C. L. Chumber honoured Mrs. and Mr. H. S. Heera with Siropas

MELA GADHARI BABIAN DA , JALANDHAR , PUNJAB , INDIA -144001

DEDICATED TO MASTER MOTA SINGH , AN OBC FOUNDER OF
THE BABBAR AKALI MOVEMENT IN PRE-INDEPENDENCE PUNJAB

BY : C.L.CHUMBER@GMAIL.COM



THE GADHAR PARTY FOUNDED IN USA IN 1913 AD BY THE INDIANS MAJORITY OF THEM WERE THE PUNJABIS WHO FOUGHT AGAINST THE BRITISH IMPERIALISM .BABA SOHAN SINGH BHAKNA AND DR. LALA HARDYAL WERE ITS ELECTED PRESIDENT AND GENERAL SECRETARY RESPECTIVELY . BABA MANGU RAM MUGGOWALIA AN UNTOUCHABLE WAS ALSO ITS PROMINENT AND DARING LEADER IN USA WHO MIGRATED TO USA IN 1909 AD .

THERE IS A " THE DESH BHAGAT YAADGAR HAAL " MEMORIAL BUILDING AT JALANDHAR CITY , PUNJAB , INDIA WHERE EVERY YEAR SINCE 1992 AD AN ANNUAL MELA IS HELD FOR THREE DAYS WHICH ENDS ON 1ST NOVEMBER .AT PRESENT BABA BHAGAT SINGH BILGA IS PRESIDENT AND COM. NAU NIHAL SINGH IS GENERAL SECRETAY ,THE COMMITEE IS RUNNIND A MUSEUM AND A LIBRARY ALSO .

IN 2005 AD , THE MELA WAS DEDICATED TO BABA MANGU RAM MUGGOWALIA AND HIS FAMILY MEMBERS WERE HONOURED .A SOUVENIR WAS ALSO RELEASED AND THE ENTIRE PRESS COVERED THAT FUNCTION WITH COLOURED PHOTOGRAPHS
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THIS YEAR 17TH MELA ON 30TH OCTOBER TO 1ST NOVEMBER WAS ORGANISED VERY WELL .THIS YEAR THE MELA WAS DEDICATED TO MASTER MOTA SINGH M .L .A . FOUNDER THE BABBAR AKALI , A MILLITANT MOVEMENT WHO FINISHED AN INTERNATIONAL TRECHEROR BELA SINGH JIAAN ( R/O VILL . JIAAN ON HOSHIAR PUR - GARH SHANKAR ROAD NEAR CHABBEWAL TOWN IN PUNJAB ) WHO DISCLOSED THE IDENTITY OF BABA MUGGOWALIA AND HIS FOUR LIEUTINENTS IN MANILA ( PHILPINES ) WHO WERE ORDERED TO BE SHOT DEAD BY THE BRITISHERS BUT THEY WERE ESCAPED WITH THE HELP OF GERMAN EMBASSY AS THE GADHAR PARTY AND GERMAN HAD UNDERSTANDING AGAINST THE BRITISHERS DURING IST WORLD WAR . IN THIS MELA A TOWN WAS NAMED AS MASTER MOTA SINGH NAGAR . THE VILLAGERS OF ANOTHER PROMINENT GADHRITE BABA JAWALA SINGH THATHIAN WERE ALSO HONOURED . INTERESTINGLY THE BOTH MILITANT FREEDOM FIGHTERS BELONG TO THE JHIWAR / KASHYAP RAJPUT AN OTHER BACKWARD CLASS OF INDIA . WE ARE PROUD OF ALL THE MILITANT GADHRITES AND BABBAR AKALIS WHO SACRIFICED THEIR LIVES , FACED RIGROUS IMPRISONMENTS AND THEIR PROPERTIES WERE FOREFIETED BY THE BRITISHER INDIAN GOVERNMENT
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ON 30TH OCTOBER ,2008 , IN THE MELA THERE WAS A SINGING COMPETITION . ON 31ST OCTOBER , THERE WAS QUIZ AND PAINTING COMPETIONS WHICH WERE PARTICIPATED BY STUDENTS OF SCHOOLS AND COLLEGES . THERE WAS ALSO A POEMS RECITATION PROGRAMME . THE DRAMATIC CLUBS FROM ALL OVER THE PUNJAB ALSO PLAYED DRAMAS UPTO MIDNIGHT . THESE DRAMAS EXPOSED THE SOCIO-RELIGIOUS FUNDAMENTALISTS AS WELL AS THE ANTI-PEOPLE GOVERNMENTS AT STATE AND CENTRE LEVELS .

ON 1ST NOVEMBER , 2008 , PROFESSOR DILBIR KAUR D/O FAMOUS GADHRITE GURMUKH SINGH UNFURLED THE FLAG OF THE GADHAR PARTY .SHE DELIVERED A VERY HEART TOUCHING DARING SPEECH .THE DESH BHAGAT YAADGAR HALL COMMITEE RELEASED THE SOVENIR .THERE WAS ALSO A GRAND BOOKS EXHIBITION . THE GOVERNMENT DID NOT ANNOUNCE EVEN THE LOCAL HOLIDAY ON THIS AUSPICIOUS OCASSION AS BEFORE .THE FAMILY OF S. GURDIP SINGH MUTHADDA AND SMT. JOGINDER KAUR MUTHADDA ARRANGED A LANGAR FOR THE THOUSANDS VISITORS FOR THREE DAYS !

THE MELA ENDED IN THE DAWN OF 2ND NOVEMBER , 2008 WITH THE DECLARATION TO FIGHT( 1 ) AGAINST THE IMPERIALISM AND ITS LATEST KIND OF GLOBALISATION . ( 2 ) FOR THE IDEALS OF THE FREDOM FIGHTERS .( 3 ) FOR RESTORATION OF REAL DEMOCRACY , SECULARISM AND WELL GOVERNED THE PANCHAYATI RAJ . ( 4 ) FOR TO ACHIEVE THE TARGET OF EMPLOYMENT TO EVERBODY , EQUAL RIGHTS , COMPULSORY AND FREE EDUCATION . ( 5 ) FOR RESTORATION OF WOMEN EQUALITY TO FULFIL THE ASPIRATIONS OF THE GADHAR PARTY AND THE BABBAR AKALI MOVEMENTS .

THERE IS AN HISTORICAL DEVELOPMENT THAT THE COMMUNISTS RECOGNISED THE CONTRIBUTION OF THE DALIT REVOLUTIONARY LEDERSHIP IN INDIA AND ABROAD . WE WEL COME AND APPRECIATE THIS REFINED THOUGHT ! MAY LIVE LONG THE REVOLUTIONARY SPIRIT OF THE GADHRITES , BABBAR AKALIS AND ADI-DHARAMI BABAS TO ESTABLISH EQUALITY , QUALITY , EQUITY , LIBERITY , FRATERNITY AND JUSTICE TO ALL !